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« on: April 09, 2007, 07:49:42 PM » |
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this happened on the very first hand of a 45 player $22 SNG. he fired out the pot sized bet in first positon on the flop which could have been anything I guess. i folded mostly from confusion and not feeling like they would have held.
what would you guys do here?
Full Tilt Poker Game #2175914735: $20 + $2 Sit & Go (16373108), Table 5 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:43:11 ET - 2007/04/09 TILTCROWNROY posts the small blind of 15 lobedogg posts the big blind of 30 The button is in seat #9 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to OKPokerNet [As Ad] denversteve is feeling confused priceeva calls 30 ash84 folds edeeseyy folds RWEDGE2 folds RyEisele folds OKPokerNet raises to 90 denversteve folds TILTCROWNROY calls 75 lobedogg folds priceeva calls 60 *** FLOP *** [Qs Kh Ts] TILTCROWNROY bets 300 priceeva folds OKPokerNet folds Uncalled bet of 300 returned to TILTCROWNROY TILTCROWNROY mucks TILTCROWNROY wins the pot (300) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 300 | Rake 0 Board: [Qs Kh Ts] Seat 1: TILTCROWNROY (small blind) collected (300), mucked Seat 2: lobedogg (big blind) folded before the Flop Seat 3: priceeva folded on the Flop Seat 4: ash84 didn't bet (folded) Seat 5: edeeseyy didn't bet (folded) Seat 6: RWEDGE2 didn't bet (folded) Seat 7: RyEisele didn't bet (folded) Seat 8: OKPokerNet folded on the Flop Seat 9: denversteve (button) didn't bet (folded)
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Last Edit: April 09, 2007, 08:36:01 PM by OKPokerNet
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Brager25
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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2007, 02:00:32 PM » |
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that is just a plain ole shitty flop. most people it seems to me if they limp in on the first hand of the tourney they will go ahead and call a raise as well as I think most people are skeptical of people raising on the very first hand and want to see what they are raising with. He could have had only AK or J-10...KQ...KJ and was opened ended with top pair. Who knows. You cant win a sng on the first hand but you can sure lose one.
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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2007, 07:56:48 PM » |
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that is just a plain ole shitty flop. most people it seems to me if they limp in on the first hand of the tourney they will go ahead and call a raise as well as I think most people are skeptical of people raising on the very first hand and want to see what they are raising with. He could have had only AK or J-10...KQ...KJ and was opened ended with top pair. Who knows. You cant win a sng on the first hand but you can sure lose one.
I wish I would read these words a long time ago! I might have more than a nickel in my account!
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Traeko
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2007, 06:26:13 PM » |
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I would have kicked my stress-relief ball across the house after the flop, then fold. He probably hit two pair, (KT?) but with this being the first hand who knows? Good fold early.
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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2007, 06:02:05 AM » |
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Tough spot. My problem is that it’s hard to give the SB credit for any kind of a hand that isn’t re-raised pre-flop. You have an overpair to the board, a redraw to the nut straight and a backdoor draw to the flush. I think I call and am ready to push the turn without a horrible card (9D maybe).
I’m always of the opinion that there is another SNG about to start and I’m not going to ever play scared. Folding this seems like a weak play to me. You’re also telling the table early on that your raises can get pushed around post flop. What hands do you honestly put the SB on? They could very easily have J8, K2s, or one of many other hands that you beat.
I certainly don’t like the call, but I’m not going to fold here. Do you all agree with the fold?
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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2007, 10:47:20 AM » |
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I kept thinking KQ or K10 for some reason and thats what made me fold. I doubt the small blind would have re-raised those preflop in first position but I could definitely seem him flat-calling.
Most of the confusion from this hand was because it was the very first hand of the tournament. It was bascially a choice of try to double up early and push eveyrone around or keep my original starting stack and try to out play everyone. I guess I tried the latter.
I agree with several of the statements here. Playing scared is never a good thing. You'll also never win a SNG on the first hand but you can definitely lose one.
I'm starting to think that the flat call and possible push on the turn might have been the way to go. I guess I'll just have wait for this situation again and see what happens.
Thanks for the insight!
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